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by tenpelOctober 9, 20099:15 pm

What is the Truth – another Smear?

This time I try to collaborate with the NKT-Truth-Smear-Site, because it was not possible to clarify what is fact what is not. I wrote an email to the team of the NKT-Truth-Smear-Site and asked if they can help to clarify if the following claims in the comment section of the YouTube video The Shugden Group are facts or not:

They say:

The NKT are banned form the premises of 1) University of Manchester 2) University of Manchester Institute Of Science and Technology 3) University of Sussex 4) University of Brighton 5) University of Hertfordshire (and if they continue their aggressive recruiting) 6) Swansea Metropolitan University. It was reported on BBC News on 06/02/09. Do get your facts right before posting; this ensures that you don’t make an a** of yourself

I can assure that it is 100% factual that the NKT are constantly being investigated by the charity investigation; as of two and a half weeks ago, I worked for them! For the last two years, the audit commission have refused to sign-off the NKT’s accounting. As you know full-well, twice audit commission investigators have investigated the Manjushri centre.

I can absolutely GUARANTEE you that the NKT are banned from five UK university campuses; I’m a union officer at Exeter university. The NKT have also been banned from university campuses in France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and The Netherlands. Nasty, money-grabbing cult.

Swansea Metropolitan University is now the seventh UK university to ban the NKT from their campus. The decision was passed by the student union, and has been accepted by the vice-chancellor. The reason for the ban (as with other UK universities) is due to over-aggressive recruitment on the campus, and for putting NKT flyers on notice boards without permission. NKT members were caught removing flyers from other Buddhist groups, and replacing them with NKT flyers@.

Personally I have some doubts in what is claimed here. Since the accounts of the posters are closed I can’t ask them to give evidence.

The clarifications I got so far from UK citizens are:

They are still teaching at Sussex University – in the main chapel once a week.
http://www.meditateinbrighton.com/sussexuni.htm

There is a new class at Brighton University…I didn’t know!
http://www.meditateinbrighton.com/brightonuni.htm

Someone else sent a link stating:

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/ShowCharity/RegisterOfCharities/FinancialHistory.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=1015054&SubsidiaryNumber=0

this shows NKT figures for the last two years-I cant find any reference to their not having been ‘signed off’??? you can search the NKT centres, constitutions, board membership, accounts on the CC website…

Anybody with factual knowledge is welcome to comment. Thanks.

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AN Other on October 10, 2009 at 7:12 pm
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I think the thing is the situation is always fluid vis a vis univesities. Previously, Student Union Execs became aware through their Buddhist Socs and the like that the NKT had a reputation. This led to their being banned from using Lancaster Chaplaincy for some years for example. But when the SU exec/Bud Soc exec changed shape, the situation changed. I await evidence of Exeter but I think what we can say is the NKT have been banned from some university campus’s in the past. How many currently is not clear. One thing is for sure, up until now, this is the first time Ive heard something claimed about the NKT that I personally, seriously doubted; people arent that wise to them yet. Either the people who have made this claim should back it up or the NKT should confirm that it is not true through their Smears site.
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info on October 11, 2009 at 7:30 pm
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http://www.meditationinexeter.org/
advertises classes at Exter Uni, but when you click on the link, it aint there. Guess it looks tood to have a uni on the publicity.
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Tenzin Peljor on October 14, 2009 at 7:19 pm
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According to the NKT team it is like this:

The NKT are not “constantly being investigated by the charity” commission. It is untrue that the “audit commission have refused to sign-off the NKT’s accounting”; there has never been a problem there.
The charity commission has worked closely with NKT managers over a period of years to help them with the NKT-IKBU constitutions and internal rules; the NKT and the charity commission have a good relationship.

When we tried to find out ourselves whether any of the UK universities mentioned had banned the NKT from their premises, we couldn’t find any university official who knew anything about this.*

* from the email reply of New Kadampa Truth Team
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Florence on October 21, 2009 at 5:28 pm
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And the esoteric meaning of the statement:
The NKT are not “constantly being investigated by the charity” is that the NKT are investigated by the CC frequently, but not constantly.
As for:
“When we tried to find out ourselves whether any of the UK universities mentioned had banned the NKT from their premises, we couldn’t find any university official who knew anything about this” this means they couldnt find anyone who knew anything about it-imagine the scene
(Telephone rings) “Hello, this is the NKT is there anybody there who can tell us if our organisation is banned on your campus?2
Answer: “Sorry, there’s nobody here at the moment who can answer your question”
Slippery or what?

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